Started out promising but dragged out with nothing to add except an obnoxious reporter named Steve and some charlatan psychic.

Despite all the ads (which I understand are necessary to make the podcast “free”), I found this podcast to be both well done and engaging….UNTIL the episode with the psychic. I do believe some people have extra sensory abilities, but seriously — this guy?? He basically claims to be communicating with the dead and then virtually recites ALL the key points of the whole, entire case. BUT, both he and the host claim he had NO prior knowledge of the case whatsoever. Yeah, right. So here’s my question for him: If the spirits are giving you all these details and clues, why don’t they just tell you who or what caused their disappearance and where exactly they are?? If they can communicate all that other stuff to you, then they ought to be able to give you that information as well. Please. SMH. A really good podcast was diminished by this guy’s performance. If he really has special abilities, he also has a good research team and a very practiced script. Unfortunately this issue really derailed an otherwise good and well-researched podcast. Get rid of that episode and you have a 5-star podcast.

I live in Philly so I was naturally drawn to this case. Good show but small correction: The show portrays Fishtown (in episode 8 or 9) as still a rough neighborhood today. I figured the episode was dated, but then I saw it was released this year. Fishtown is gentrified, with houses starting in the 500Ks. Full of transplants from the burbs. Unfortunately, the medium lost me. It can be tough getting Philadelphians on board with the medium for a missing persons case.

I support getting unsolved stories out to the world in the hopes of finding new answers. This podcast, however, had so much filler and repetition that it got boring very quickly. The whole story could be wrapped up in 1-2 episodes, not 10. An entire episode spent on debating if the two victims were or were not a couple felt exploitative, not informative or interesting.

Just came here to say, put the name of your podcast on your I heart radio ads. How maddening it is to Google search this instead of finding it.

Overall, the editing & storytelling were good with compelling and emotional interviews with the family; the victims’ backstories laid out well. Where you lost me was the lengthy recording with the medium. The reason given was bc he’d mentioned the word “corruption” during your session, but there are other more valid ways to legitimize looking into potential corruption of a 20 year cold case. This gimmick was cringey and lessened the journalistic integrity of the series so much so that I skipped most of the last 2 episodes.

This show dives deep into the families affected by this horrible event. I have been obsessed with this case for years. What happened to these two. The show looks for answers while also very poignantly examining how this tragedy impacted two very close middle class families. Some very moving character studies. Unexpectedly compelling for reasons outside the usual whodunnit; this is sadly a most unusual case.

I understand conferring with the medium. But the podcasters lost credibility when they let him go on. And on! The podcasters acted so wow’d by the nebulous (and available) information provided by the medium that it damaged my earlier impressions.

Tragic, fascinating story that on no planet needed 10 episodes to be told. As others have said, there’s so much filler here. Host interjects herself early and often with first person anecdotes and observations. Towards the end, she utilizes a psychic and is breathless with childlike wonder as the psychic does the usual psychic/carnival-barker gimmick; spoiler alert, just like every psychic in crime solving history before him, the guy doesn’t solve the case either. Grateful the podcast put the story on my radar. Feel awful for the families. Almost certainly was a random car jacking/murder or something arranged by the ex-husband.

We are just going to gloss over the most likely scenario, that they accidentally drove into the water and drowned? I don’t remember hearing any real motive for a murder, let alone one involving a hitman or massive corruption and conspiracy involving many many people and a chop shop, yet that is the main focus. I found this podcast to be extremely repetitive and really just sensationalism and exploitation of the families’ pain.

The recapping every episode is unnecessary. Also, the description of Philly being an everybody knows everybody “town” is so false. There 1.5 million people in the CITY of Philly and we definitely don’t all know each other or know someone who knows someone, lol That’s more of a Philadelphia “neighborhood” thing.

But has anyone thought about the potential of them just having crashed into a river or lake?

The podcast is OK, however it’s soooooo repetitive you could literally fast-forward the beginning of each episode to the 12 minute mark and you won’t miss anything!! they recap the previous episode and the people they interview keep saying the same thing over and over and over and over and over……..

You are instantly captivated and invested in such a tragic story.

This is a great podcast. Can’t wait for the next episode

Stopped at episode 5, could not keep listening to John so blindly defending the husband a VERY likely suspect. Even blaming one of the victims for it.. crazy. Made me stop listening to the show 🥹

I cannot believe I wasted so much time and got my ears assaulted by the theme music for 9 episodes only to have my intelligence insulted by bringing on a psychic to solve the case. I don’t care if he gave you chills; psychics add no value to a fact based investigation. So disappointed.

Did anyone ever interview the “other woman”? The woman her husband left her for??

this was such a good podcast. I have never heard of this case before and i binged this in one day. Great Job! Prayers to families of the victims

I enjoyed this podcast overall. The narrator has a good voice, is pretty well spoken and is not annoying at all. It is apparent that she genuinely cares and wants to help with this mystery. This podcast probably could have been less than half the length that it was without losing any vital information; it’s pretty drawn out. But that seems to be the case with all true crime podcasts, so not a big deal. The one frustrating thing about this story is that unless I am missing something, most of the suspects and suspected scenarios in this case are 100% the result of rumor mills and emotions, not facts and there seems to be no motive for anyone to harm these people. None of it seems to ever go anywhere. The fact that not one person has come forward or accidentally leaked knowledge about what happened after decades and after all “scary” suspects being dead just screams that this was probably a freak accident and not a “hit.” Many times people have accidentally driven into a body of water to not be found for decades despite searches and so on. I suspect that might be the case here. The final thing that took me out was the fact that this podcast team actually met with a “medium” or psychic to consult the two missing/presumed dead victims from beyond the grave. For me their credibility was all but completely lost once they start with that. I can’t take anyone seriously who invests in something like this. I almost couldn’t finish the show after that but I pushed through. Overall, I did like the show and would listen to another one by this team.

The story this podcast tells is tragic and very interesting. It’s told so well and had me hooked immediately.

This podcast is dragging on way too long. Seriously working with a medium was the last straw.

Started off strong and interesting and now seems like they are forcing episodes out of d content. Stopped listening after they brought on a “medium” in earnest. I couldn’t believe it.

I enjoyed this podcast except for 1) the horrible opening music 2) the psychic

I like long form podcasts, especially involving unsolved crimes. I appreciated the amount of time spent speaking with family and friends. I also think it’s awesome that the FBI participated and sees the value in podcast journalism. I could’ve done without the twist in episode 9. Otherwise, it was an easy listen, gave a lot of insight and was well produced. I’m a fan of Andrea Gunning and will continue to enjoy her work.

A psychic medium? What a joke.

I’m from the Philly area and have been interested in this case for a while. I was disappointed when I made it to the end and realized that no deeper dive or real investigation took place as part of this podcast. Nothing new was uncovered that you couldn’t already find out from a past article regarding this case. Too much time is spent on the emotions of family members or a rehash by the FBI agent, but no additional work was done to garner new leads. If the FBI thinks this is a murder for hire case then why not throw out all the info they have so far? It’s been 20 years and really the public has nothing to go on to jog their memory or tear this case wide open. Also, why are so many people speaking off the record and the information can’t be revealed? After 20 years, how cowardly are you that you can’t step up and say something that could help? Maybe it’s just poor investigatory work as well as sometimes people need convincing. I’m glad that this podcast is keeping their story alive but so much more could have been done with this to try to figure out what happened.

The story is interesting it really repetitive and I think they make some pretty long leaps about what happened and the people involved. They drag one of the people because they didn’t act the way they wanted them to. Bad reporting and bad conclusions

Painfully drawn out. There’s enough content for 3 episodes max. And the theme song is awkwardly morose. I have to fast forward past it - it gives me secondhand embarrassment.

Excellent on all fronts. Thank you for this work for justice for these families and the community that was home to both the beautiful human beings who were victims in this case and the individuals directly and tangentially involved in their murder.

By far one of the BEST Beautiful and terrifying Can’t imagine the pain, the nightmares, the longing and tears St. Anthony, make magic happen

Not at all suspicious that this show is sponsored by California Psychics and made two psychic themed episodes.

I cannot believe you actually wasted time with a psychic and presented it as legitimate and credible. Did your psychic solve the case for you? Of course he didn’t. The fact that you put this forward tells me you have no interest in serious investigative reporting. You have no credibility!

What is the purpose of repeating information over and over? Very annoying and makes it hard to listen to. Would be much more interesting if laid out in a more cohesive fashion.

I was enjoying this podcast and willing to forgive the repetition but the psychic??? That really ruined the credible investigative podcast aspect…

Dedicated a whole episode of speculative filler to an interview with a psychic medium. The “investigative journalists” don’t give any pushback to the psychic. The psychic’s answers were so clearly pre-researched or fed to the psychic from producers. What an insult to the victims and their families.

I had not heard of this case before finding this podcast. It is very well done. I appreciate the reminders of who people are. I wish the episodes were longer but that’s my personal preference. The host is great and I’d love to listen to more podcasts from her.

I’ve lived in Philadelphia my whole life, not to far from where this happened. I was in my early 20s when this happened and I still remember it like it was yesterday. Thank you for covering this.

… but please get rid of the into song! It’s a pet peeve of mine when podcasts have intro songs. I FF thru it but it’s annoying to have to do it every time I listen.

They get absolutely nowhere in their “investigation” and just throw up there hands and go to a PSYCHIC MEDIUM in the finale. Embarrassing.

I have followed this story since day one and have always prayed for some type of closure for the families involved. This podcast has done a great job of retelling the story and getting into even deeper details of it. I am sad to see it come to an end as I look forward to listening every week. Andrea and Ben are amazing!

I think this is one of the best podcasts I’ve ever listened to. Keep up the great work and I will pray that these families get answers now that you’ve brought their disappearances back under the spotlight.

This pod is dragging content out, presumably to reach 10 episodes. What can there be after the psychic? I’m thinking a rehash wrap up

Great journalism. This story is heartbreaking. The medium episode blew me away. Hope that this can be solved for the families

I was fine with the show up until the psychic episode. I remember when this happened, from living in the area and eve was at the park when the non-related cars were pulled from Cooper River. It was a solid retelling of what happened and maybe someone will come forward with info. I just cannot take the complete nonsense of psychics in anything let alone true crime and policing. Far too many shows slide down this path. Just stop.

Interesting story… but it sounds like Poppy from Trolls in the one telling the story and it really throws me off. I keep waiting for her to break out into song or something. Wrong voice for this type of podcast.

It’s rare you have a great story and can still make a podcast unbearable to listen to. Episode eight and she still talking about how the family feels about the people disappearing. Where’s the investigation? Waste of time.

Being a South Jersey girl, I have followed this sad story from the very beginning. Finally getting the true facts, from the people who have lived through this terrible, tragic story. This podcast is so well done and the host is fabulous.

I love this podcast. I purchased a subscription strictly to listen to this one and its proven to be an excellent investment. A healthy dose of deep dive into this case, I grew up in the around the area of the Viking Pastry shop and thought I heard every possible rumor about this place, it’s almost an urban legend at this point…gone the way of “Satanville” in Glen Mills. But this investigation has even more theories explored than even us locals are familiar with.

I’m from a Philly and have been following this mystery since day one. This pod retells the story, but still goes nowhere toward solving the mystery other than shining fresh light on the story. From a local perspective, the bar was a former Chinese restaurant and not a happening place for music, and this winter night was a relatively quiet night for south street. It’s also possible that this stolen truck was chopped and parted out, or merely repainted and driven out of state, to simply disappear into the ether. Go Birds